in the spirit of giving credit where it is due, i've created a list of ODE contributors and their contributions: http://q12.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ContributorsToODE if i forgot your name or what you did, can you edit this page accordingly? (it's a wiki, so everyone can edit it). i'll move this list to the ODE main page when it's accurate. russ. -- Russell Smith http://www.q12.org